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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:48 am 
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I posted this somewhere else but I can't find it. Here's what's happening with the 1600.

I Edit/copied a bar of guitar from one portion of the track to another. The playback was fine, but this evening I play back the tune and all of a sudden a bar of guitar is missing. I stop the machine and back up to right before the dropout occurs and hit play again. Now the guitar part magically reappears. But if I replay the entire tune (RTZ) the guitar part drops out again at the same point. I rewind a bit, hit play and it reappears!

What gives?

When I do a final mixdown do you think I can set my levels, etc., hit record and go to the end of the tune, then go back to that Dead Zone bar and just record that bar again? Will that work?

Very odd.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:00 am 
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Byron said (once):

Off the top I'm thinking, Have you copied ( not moved) the heavily edited track to a new virtual to see if the copy plays back the same way, or exported that track via Transport to another editing platform to see if the exported copy is intact?

I will try this tomorrow and see if it fixes the dropout.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:04 am 
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Is this a 1600-specific issue? I have never encountered it with the aw16g.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:24 pm 
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I never worked with a G long enough to encounter this glitch on the G, but it was a perplexing problem when I encountered it on the 1600.

To avoid the problem I think that refraining from making edits on top edits is a good habit.

If you are wanting to mixdown a song where this glitch is occurring, you can start the recording (press record/play) then stop it after a few beat ( or at any point before the glitch), then start recording again. Even if the part (that sometimes is missing) is much further along in the song, it will play after the start/stop procedure. The start/stop will not be detectable in the stereo track you create from that mixdown. But this is a work around, rather that a fix of the glitch. the dropout will reoccur in subsequent playback of the tracks. This was my experience.

The best habit is to avoid the glitch by keeping a rein on your editing practice. If you intend to edit a track severely, you can copy the track to a new virtual before you slice and dice. And so retain the original data without overburdening it with edit points, just in case the glitch rears its ugly head.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:54 am 
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Byron,

Aha, you answered my question posed on the other post. OK, I now know that Copy/editing = bad, at least on the 1600. Like I mentioned, I have never had this happen on the aw16g.

I copied the whole offending track to an adjacent track and the glitch still appeared, but now I have a fair amount of confidence that, when it comes time to mixdown, I can record in several passes in order to recapture the missing/edited section.

A measure of my relative lack of confidence in my recently-acquired 1600 is that I have this week received several shipments of CD-Rs and clamshell cases for same. I have two aw16gs that are functional (three, in all, actually) and I will keep my eye on the reverb.com market.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:30 pm 
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The glitch you have experienced is not a dominant feature of the 1600 ( can't speak on the G??).. I would not avoid editing though. The glitch seems only to rear is head when there has been multiple edits on the same spot in a track. That is my best guess.

I sent you a link to a thread where this was discussed some years ago. But there are a good deal of other threads where the topic comes up.

Search on this forum >>> disappearing track. I would suggest using my name as the author, as I commented on many such threads. This would give you background on the experience of other users who have encountered the glitch.

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