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 Post subject: AW16G VS AW2400
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:02 pm 
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Hi all,

I've got a chance to buy an AW2400 but already have a 16G
Apart from the obvious extra tracks, is the 2400 a better machine (pre's effects, mastering etc)?

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 Post subject: Re: AW16G VS AW2400
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:59 pm 
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There has been plenty of discussion on that topic. A search of my posts and RZ and Blackbeer posts would reveal many positive comments.

A few highlights --- bigger drive , USB, two more effects processors, easier access to AUX busses, Auto mix, longer faders, expansion slot, XLR inputs, separate monitor and headphone volume pots, bigger screen, shortcut buttons for basic functions, auto locate buttons - assignable to specific locations for quick access, easier access to metering screens, greater potential to effective use as FOH or rehearsal mixer - plus the added capability to pushing the red button to record on the spot.

I am not sure the pres are much different than the 1600, and it was years ago i last used a G so can't compare pre amps. I do recall I initially thinking G pres to be weak, but that is a general complaint of the whole series i think, and I have discovered as my chops improved that they are quite usable. there is opportunity to completely bypass the AW pre on channels one and two of the 2400, utilizing the insert point available on those channels

If you have opportunity to pick one up reasonably, I'd go for it. I kept my 1600 and use it sometimes to for remote jobs and have on occasion midi connected to 2400 for bigger mixes. A bit more problematic with a G if you need to transfer files, as the G has no USB.

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 Post subject: Re: AW16G VS AW2400
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:40 pm 
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Hi Byron
Cheers for that!
I've pushed the button and bought one. Should have it by the end of the week hopefully...
Les


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 Post subject: Re: AW16G VS AW2400
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:50 pm 
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Just to add, the AW2400 is one awesome machine. The screen size, the auto faders, the 4 fx, the 24 tracks . . . you will be very happy. I'll give you the first tip. Once it's up and running, press the input button under layer, press the 9-16 button and raise the last 4 faders. Those control your fx. Your good to go. Ok one more tip, pay close attention to those same buttons and the track buttons to be sure you are monitoring the proper signal. There's been many a time, I got no input signal, only to find I was on tracks and not inputs.

In any event, get ready to Rock!

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 Post subject: Re: AW16G VS AW2400
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:35 pm 
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Not to quible, but either input button (1-8 or 9-16) will make the EFF return faders available on sliders 9-12. Less often utilized is the Master layer. Sliders 9-12 on that layer control the EFF send levels. Like the red fader, the master fader is full at the fop of the slide. Unlike the track /input faders that have 10 db of digital gain above the 0 dB point.

Another improved aspect of the 2400 is available on the VIEW screen of individual tracks/inputs. (also can be accessed on the EQ screen too). Of what i speak is the facility to both cut and add digital gain at the head of the signal chain. the smaller machines allow cuts only, but not add, at this point. This is VERY useful in order to equalize uneven signal levels so that your faders are all sitting within the range of unity ( 0 dB), where you have the most precise control of increment in volume adjustment. For E.G. - an acoustic guitar may have weak signal from the tracking and gets lost in a mix. Rather than pull everything down to allow for the weak track, give it a boost on the VIEW screen, send it through a compressor wit a bit of makeup gain added and you more likely will have a track that sits within the mix. the G and 1600 allow you to cut but not add on tracks and inputs. All the AW machines allow both cuts and add on the stereo bus.

Be advised that as you add gain in this fashion you raise the noise floor too. so If you have an extremely sub standard level ( ie poorly tracked) then that may become and issue, but I have not really experienced such degradation, even when utilizing the maximum boost (12 dB I think). Retracking would be called for if that became an issue.

As Ron said, you will like your purchase. Ask for some quick tips as needed over your learning curve.

If I were you I would keep my eyes peeled for a WAVs y96k card for the slot. I believe a y56k card may work too. Both cards are no longer produce and may still be a bit pricey if you can locate one. There are other cards providing hardware input or output expansion if you are using the machine for mixing live sound or recording from the floor. The WAVs card also allows for expansion via 8 ADAT inputs (delivered through a light-pipe connection), to get 16 channels of simultaneous recording. sounds daunting, but quite easy to do. Ask if you want info on any of that.

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 Post subject: Re: AW16G VS AW2400
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:52 pm 
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Thanks for your help!
Been getting used to the machine over the last few days. Unfortunately family life has only given me an hour or so at a time so far...There will be questions to come I'm sure.
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