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 Post subject: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:22 pm 
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Hello AW-friends,

Since a few weeks I'm testing
a solid state drive with IDE interface
from Transcend in my AW2400.

The disk is 64GB and so far I have not
seen any problem.

The exact part number is TS64GSSD25-M

The disk is 2.5" so a 3.5" to 2.5" mounting kit was needed.


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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:25 pm 
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have you tested it with usb and recording?


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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:27 pm 
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I just tested:
- Recording 8 ch @ 48kHz/24Bit OK
- USB connection OK
- Import/Export on USB OK


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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:07 pm 
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last thing would be cd burning :D

the only drive i can find thats: TS64GSSD25-M is SATA II but the AW2400 uses IDE

http://faq.yamaha.com/us/en/article/mus ... /1996/6451


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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:55 pm 
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did u have to force format with the tools cd?


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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:36 pm 
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Search on web for Transcend 2.5" PATA SSD
This disk is available in 44PIN IDE interface.

The tools cd is not needed.
Install disk in AW2400 and start-up.
AW2400 will ask for firmware cd.
Download AW2400v113 firmware from Yamaha
for instructions.
Also watch out for the fader calibration procedure
that starts automatically.
I was not ready for that so my faders are not
in perfect calibration.


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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:17 pm 
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Has this been the only SSD drive you have tried thus far? seems like if one works all the PATA SSD's drives should work.


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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:20 pm 
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Very interesting find, well done.

As someone who's fairly new to the AW2400 does anyone know if you can get into a diagnostics page for the unit. I still own an AW4416 which you can check the operation of the machine by going into a diagnostics mode. I mention this as I too have some faders that when paired do not physically match each other?

Al


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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:26 pm 
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Hi. don't know the answer to your question, but there are several here who will. Not sure when they'll be by, but should be soon.

Welcome.

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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:34 pm 
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Welcome to the forum, Al!

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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:56 pm 
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althemusicwizard wrote:
Very interesting find, well done.

As someone who's fairly new to the AW2400 does anyone know if you can get into a diagnostics page for the unit. I still own an AW4416 which you can check the operation of the machine by going into a diagnostics mode. I mention this as I too have some faders that when paired do not physically match each other?

Al


Never seen a diagnostics page in my travels about my machine, nor have I heard/read of such a thing in the manual. Another 4416 feature of which the 2400 was deprived. I've never owned a 4416, but it seems that it is the machine that had it all, as far as patching and functionality. The HD was small and there are no virtual tracks on the stereo track, and no USB, but that machine is still quite powerful - and expandable with its two slots allowing for both additional inputs and a y56k card to be on board. i have both cards for the 2400 (actually y96k for the 2400) but i have to swap them out as more inputs needed (usually for a live from the floor session) , and then you don't have the Wavs stuff on board to sparkle things up.

If you find a route to a diagnostics screen, let us know. Probably it is hidden in there somewhere, as the Yammie techs would want that for repair work I'd suspect.

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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:54 am 
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Thanks for the welcome Robbie.

The AW2400 is a bit of an unusual machine when you think of the ground Yamaha broke when releasing the AW4416....but I suppose the compromises were all done to fit a price point. The 100mm faders, 16 track simultaneous recording and 4 high quality effects are all great stuff to have and beat the AW4416 in that respect. The increase in speed of processing is another huge one (especially in the editing dept. where the AW4416 is simply painful to work with). I think a lot was made of the fact that the unit can only do 24 tracks at 16-bit, not 24-bit........but when you hear the quality of both the recording and the mix-buss, then it really is a non-issue. The AW2400 at 16-bit sounds as good as anything else I've ever used, so I'm not going to worry about it.

If I ever find a diagnostics page, I'll let you know.
Al


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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:28 am 
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i just sold my aw4416 for 250 dollars, i originally bought it for 2500 (pukes on himself). I sold it for the 2400, the aw4416's scsi made me puke more, i spent 3 whole days backing up my songs, its crap.

As for this diagnostic page i am interested because i am a veteran awww16 user and was unaware of this forbidden screen. If there is an answer this it resides in the wholly book of aw2400 service manual. Thou who discovers shall be received as a god among men for many moons. :)


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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:20 am 
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Uhhh... I don't know about your country, but here in Holland we only have one moon... and we like to think of it as one giant cheese... :)

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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:21 pm 
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I think the following seller must have a friend in every music manufacturer's technical department.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-AW2400 ... 45fba2c7c5

Smokeme,

That sounds really cheap to sell an AW4416. I'd rather it sit in my flightcase here than give it away. Did you back-up your projects to an external SCSI CDRW or exported the WAVs? The reason I ask is because the way to work with the AW4416 is to back-up the song to CDR.....a 700Mb song would take about 20-30 mins. From the backed up CDR, there is now a utility from which you can rip WAV files direct from the CDR. The ripped WAVs can then be stored as a long-term backup and restored to whatever computer system or hardware you may use in the future.

Al


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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:38 am 
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trust me i took no pleasure in selling my aw4416, i backed up the dam thing using cds, yeah that programs also crap cause it only can detect 1 song at a time.

I bought the ssd and have tryed to install it. Unfortunatly when i put the tools cd in it tells me it cant find the os, when i put the burned cd with os it gives me some crap about the os being broken? wtf???


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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:33 pm 
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Nvm i got it, must have burned it wrong... SSD in AW2400 works perfect even a little faster!


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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:46 am 
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One question about this installation:

The power cable (white plug) that connects to the old hard disk drive is not used in this installation, right ?
The "Transcend 2.5" PATA SSD" doesn't even have an entrance for a power cable.

I assume that the only thing you must do is to connect the "Transcend 2.5" PATA SSD" directly to the large grey cable of the AW2400, right ?

Please confirm.


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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:32 pm 
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Quote:
"The disk is 2.5" so a 3.5" to 2.5" mounting kit was needed"
So the power cords goes to that.


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 Post subject: Re: IDE SSD
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:02 am 
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It seems a little complicated and expensive when you can buy a direct replacement for the internal disk with 4 times the capacity. The Seagate Barracuda ST3160215A 160 gig is a straight swap and here in the UK it typically costs around £25.


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