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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:00 pm 
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Hello again - I've not posted for a while but I'm back to annoy you again :)

We're getting a Rode NT2A mic and I am concerned about the correct way to apply phantom power when using my AW16G. We are not going to use mic preamps at the moment. I did a search but didn't manage to find exactly what I wanted. We have been using an NT1A but it died and I am starting to wonder if I broke it.

Anyway, my question is what order do I turn things on? Do I turn on the AW16G, and then apply phantom power? Or can I leave phantom power on all the time? When I power down do I need to turn off the phantom power first and then turn the AW off? Do I need to darken the room? Talk softly to the AW? Wear sneakers?

Thanks for any help you can give.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:08 pm 
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I wouldn't be turning the phantom on while the unit has any volume going to the monitors. A loud, potentially damaging POP is likely to occur. I have regularly powered up and down with the phantom left on with no problem, but stand to be corrected if my habit is a bad one. There are some issues I believe sending phantom to units that don't require it, such as a tube mic's dedicated power supply, but no issues sending it to dynamic mics such as the SM 57 or 58. I try to remember to turn it off when I don't need it though.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:49 pm 
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Thanks for that advice, it's very much appreciated.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:08 am 
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Recorder main power off.
Move channel fader down (move master fader down just to be double safe)
Connect the mic cord to the mic then to the recorder.
Place mic as desired (away from any monitors or nearby unworn headphones)
power up the recorder
turn on the phantom power
Adjust faders as needed.

Shut Down...........
Pull faders down
Turn off phantom power
Wait a minute or so for the phantom power to bleed down
Turn recorder power off after saving everything.
Unplug mic cord from recorder.
Then unplug cord from mic.

Some don'ts

Don't connect phantom power to ribbon mics EVER! .

Don't use phantom power if you are using an external preamp that provides phantom power to the connected mic. I.E. Use the pre amp's phantom power not the recorder's.

Don't use phantom power with tube mics

Although phantom power is not supposed to hurt dynamic mics , make it a habit to check it's status anyway. Only a few ms of phantom power will fry a delicate ribbon or some battery powered condensers.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:55 pm 
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This advice is very much appreciated, mrskygod. Our new mic came today, so I'm looking forward to trying it out - without having to worry about damaging it!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:05 pm 
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Update:

I tried the new mic and all went well. Now, of course, I want a pre amp so a-researching I must go! :)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:27 am 
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Be sure to do your homework carefully around your budget. Many of these so called budget pre's can get a bit noisy when cranked.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:50 pm 
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Will do, RZ. I've not decided which way to go yet - a dedicated pre or a box-of-tricks pre.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:03 pm 
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Update.

Rode repaired our old NT1A for free! We emailed them and said that we couldn't prove where we bought it from because the place had gone out of business, and we didn't have a serial number because it had rubbed off the casing of the mic and I couldn't find the instructions for it anywhere, which I think also had the serial number in. They said send it anyway and they would look at it - we got it back today in perfect working order.

Things like this put me in a good mood :)

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Service like that is very cool. M-Audio also rocks. They sent me a new EX-66 after the demo I bought got a rattleing mid-woofer. Never had to do without my good montors in the mixing studio.

David Clark is another business like that. I have a set of aviation headphones that belonged to my step father. Being of sentimental value I called them first to ask if they could repair them but not change their worn appearance. They sent them back with all new electronics and earcushions. The earcup buckets were retained and they didn't charge anything else visable.

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