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 Post subject: "Disc at once" burning
PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:34 pm 
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So I have a stereo track from about 12 minutes divided by markers into 9 songs. Now I want to burn to CD via "Disc at once", I activate the "Marker" button and now comes the error message "Track Lenght too short". Due to the manual this message arrives when the lenghts between the songs is less than 4 seconds. But each of my songs is at least over 1 minute.
Do you have any ideas to solve this problem?
Thanks, Helmut


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:44 am 
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Hi Helmut, welcome to the forum.

Check your start and end marker, throw away all markers, opimize and put the markers in place again.

Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:19 am 
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Thanks Robbie, in the meantime I found another "solution". I saved the song, shutdown the AWG and started again. Now the flag appeared correctly,
Helmut


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 Post subject: "Disc at once" burning
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Hi Helmut and welcome to the forum.

I play soccer with a great fellow named Helmut. Cool name.

Kinda wished my parents gave me a first name that better reflected my ethnicity. Something like Arturo Gustavo or Artgus for short. If you knew my last name all of that would make sense.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:22 am 
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Is your last name Garfunkel? :?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:06 pm 
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Glad it worked for you Helmut.

I would have said "format!" but there's an administrator around here that will give me a warning. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:06 pm 
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Hi,

Robbie wrote:
Glad it worked for you Helmut.

I would have said "format!" but there's an administrator around here that will give me a warning. :)


Seems you cant remember, that you can get warnings from moderators, too :frank2:
No cheesy thread today?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:42 pm 
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Nope... I'm doing my best to have my weight actually drop. I just returned from a walk - took the bus to the next village and walked back. 5 kilometers in exactly one hour. No cheese, except for a modest slice on the lunch sandwich, with a little Dijon Mustard. 8)

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:05 am 
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Hi Robbie,

Robbie wrote:
Nope... I'm doing my best to have my weight actually drop. I just returned from a walk - took the bus to the next village and walked back. 5 kilometers in exactly one hour. No cheese, except for a modest slice on the lunch sandwich, with a little Dijon Mustard. 8)


I am again away from home because of my job. I hate it!
Better for you, that I have no camera to post pictures from the breakfast menue I got this morning ... :shock:

Hope you are feeling well and loosing so much more weight you wish!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:38 am 
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Hello everyone- I'm new to the forum and am glad to be in the mix. The "track length too short" buggaboo got me, and I found the answer is quite simple. I recorded a live performance, 45 mins w/ 8 songs and wanted to divide it into 8 tracks. Before you actually start recording, press play and let the transport run for 10 seconds (or more) so there's plenty of wiggle room at the beginning when you set your markers. And then just start your recording. When done, save it, then press the song key and access the points page. Set your start point at the beginning of the first song and set markers at the beginning of each of the remaining songs. You can find the exact location of these by going to the track screen and accessing the view page, select the wave button and note the counter display. The start point, by default, is actually the first marker. There must be more than four seconds between the start point and the first marker you set, and all subsequent markers must be more than four seconds apart. This must be done before mix-down, because the burner will only read data on the stereo track. When you go to burn, select disc at once. Press new and scroll down to the song. Select the markers button and you'll see the flag icon next to the song. That will assign the track numbers to the songs. The burning will begin from the start point you selected earlier (not relative zero). I hope this is helpful


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:06 am 
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Hi Creeter and welcome to the forum.

If memory serves correctly your markers can be closer than 4 seconds, as long as the stereo track is longer than 4 seconds (and the start- and endmarker are more than 4 seconds apart). Not sure though. But I recall having markers much closer together.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:39 am 
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You could be right. Even back in the day, when punk rock was still underground, I don't ever recall a song being less than four seconds. What got me was the start point and first marker being too close.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:45 am 
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So, you can't put a marker on, let's say, 2 seconds?

I can't recall I ever tried, but it amazes me.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:46 am 
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You can, but the burner will recognize it as "track length to short"


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:08 pm 
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That doesn't seem right as redbook standard for CD's is 2 seconds between tracks...hmmm...someone should verify this.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:19 pm 
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true. When you try to use the marker utility on the disc at once, you can burn a single stereo track as separate tracks to the CD. If you are using this function of disc at once the markers must be no closer than 4 seconds/. so if you were recording a gig and hit the marker button twice between songs, there is a possibility that those markers would be too close together. In this case you have to go back through your stereo track and place the markers appropriately. Remember that markers are not unique to any particular track, rather they are placed for the whole song. Markers are tied to time, not data so any editing will shift the apparent placement of markers in relation to the data.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:10 pm 
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Byron wrote:
When you try to use the marker utility on the disc at once


That is where I went wrong. I used markers close together on many occasions and burned to CD flawlessly... but that was track at once, giving one track per project.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:31 pm 
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The 4 second proximity of markers only comes into play when you select the marker option in the disc at once dialogue. If you utilize the disc at once, without designating the "marker" option in the dialogue. it doesn't matter where the markers are placed.

If you do go the marker route ( to burn a long stereo track as separate segments/tracks), marker # one should be at the end of the first section you wish to have as a track on your CD.

Track at once puts two seconds between each entry. Disc at once strings CD list entries together, so if you don't build space into the track, there will not be any space between tracks on the CD.

track at once gives the option of burning without finalizing, so you can build a full disc over subsequent burns, but you can't play the CD in a player until it is finalized. Disc at once automatically finalizes the burn and asks if you would like to burn the same project again.

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