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Actually I live about 20 minutes or so from Graceland. If you stayed at the Heartbreak Hotel, yes you spend qite a bit. However, the whole experience the way you did it was the way to go. Next time, come in during August for Elvis death week. They do the candlelight vigil and tour Graceland. There's usually about 10,000 people from all over the globe.

Btw, did you sign the rock wall?

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hi yes we did sign the wall ,jimmy and lynda, sarah and sean, steven n lynn..william,stephanie and kylie . it's a pleasure to know someone who lives as close to graceland ... jj.

Finally ...

It's all free standing. The frame holds the foam against the wall. The ceiling foam is help up by wire. The curtains pull close. It's pretty dead.

Now I just need to record something!

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That looks pretty cool, Rob. I'd love to hear some sound samples.

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Hi Robbie,

I recorded some drums in there over the weekend to test - drumming was awful the overhead on the crash and hi-hat didn't sound great either, I need to move it around a bit. Will post some samples within the next week - drums, and acoustic gtr.

Cheers

Rob

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The sound or the playing?

Looking forward to those samples.

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Hi Robbie,

Both I eventually figured out one of the overheads was facing the wrong way - i.e. away from the drums in into the foam. Doh!

Anyway - finally got round to some samples - they're totally dry - no eq/compression/panning - I didn't even mix it - faders at at 0 - I make no apologies for the awful drumming.

http://www.robhynes.co.uk/mp3/sample.mp3

First guitar sample was with a joe meek jm27 cheapo mic. 2nd test was with a AKG 414.

Rob

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Rob,

Drums sound very natural. Would love to hear them after you do your panning to get a feel for the depth. Since they passed the mono test, my guess is that they are going to sound real good in stereo.

Just curious....in a studio situation, I mic toms from the top. What made you decide to mic from the underside? I've have mic'd toms from the bottom, but only in live sound reinforcement situations.

The 12 string sounds nice and up front. Good work man!

Gary

Hi Gary,



IMHO from a players perspective it's much better to get the mics out of the way, those mic clips are handy but they really get in the way. Also - the resonant heads on the bottom of the toms have been cut out using a bass drum head cutter - so I'm actually capturing the sound of inside the drum and the top head (from underneath). Why ?? Well I tried it and liked it. I also like quite dead sounding toms on records - it's just a personal preference - hence the holes.

Actually the recorded drums weren't recorded like the setup in the pic. The hi-hat had a joe meek jm27 on it. Also the snare was mic'd from the top only.
I've never managed to get a good snare sound by close mic'ing top and bottom. Still experimenting with this ....

I'll post more drum samples when I've got the eq's/gates sorted.

Cheers for the comments.

Rob

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Amen bro' on top mics getting in the way.....especially on snare drums. There really isn't a good place to position a top snare mic (if there is, I haven't found it yet!).

BTW, your toms sound nice and full. I have Audix micro condensers and clip them on the tom rims.....you got me rethinking how I will approach the toms next time. Good stuff man, love the pics. I'm a visual learner so any technique related pics really sink in.

Cheers,

Gary

Rob,
Sounds good to me too! When you get the effects and panning going on they're going to sound terrific

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Totally - I read something somewhere about mic'ing the 'blast' hole on the snare which I'm gonna try soon. I listened to the snare the other day from various positions top/bottom/side and to the side is best I think. Obviously the mic has to be positioned to avoid the air-jet that comes out of the hole when the snare is hit. Haven't tried it yet but the worst offender for getting in the way is a snare clip-on mic (I have the RED 5 Audio mics) so yeah - anything to avoid this is a good thing.

I bought this product http://www.audiomasterclass.com/publications/img-the-joe-clancy-drum-recordings-at-abbey-road-studio-3/the-joe-clancy-drum-recordings-at-abbey-road-studio-3-248.jpg - primarily for the video that came with it that showed what drums sound using various mic techniques. What i noticed was that with just overheads mic'ing a kit - you get a nice snap on the snare but you get a lot of 'room'. Close mic'ing the kit gives you less room but the close mic's don't capture the snap of the snare so well. I guess it's just a case of messing around with the two together (overheads and close mics) until you get a nice snare sound. Like I mentioned before - I've never got a good snare sound by mic'ing close top and bottom - the snare wires don't sound good close mic'd in my opinion. I'll be experimenting on the weekend.

Will keep you posted.

Rob

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