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Hm, I have been thinking about a lyrics section. (hope i have not overlooked it) Not just one where you can post some but more like (and also) getting some help and explainations from Native English speaking people or savants. I just don't seem to understand what some songs are about.

For example : even if i do know what a hag is (quite rare fore the none english / American / Australian / Canadian etc..) I don't really graps what all these lyrics of 'Chocolate cake' are about. Is it just about the crazy priorities of some people or have the lyrics been thrown together whic does happen ...

Who listens to lyrics anyway ? Well i do. I even read them ...

I always took 'Chocolate Cake' to be a song that was critical of American Society. Namely: The junk food diets which have lead to overall declines in general health. Consumerism. The dumbing down of American art and entertainment, and the blind faith displayed by some Americans, in 'self-anointed religious leaders' who hustle money on TV'.

There is a songwriting subsection in the collabs section.

That is true Robbie but that section doe not explain lyrics unless you think that is the place for these discussions ...

Ah... I get it now.

Writing vs analysis.

Silly me.

So, where should a lyrics sub-section be on the forum?

Thanks Utah. That does help a bit. Would you mind us discussing some scentences in those lyrics ? Cause i think Andrew Loyb webber is hardly a 'self-anointed-religious-leader' in my book. (is there something i am not aware of ?) 'Jesus knows me' is more obvious on that behalf but maybe Crowded House doesn't like the obvious... That concents with what you are saying.

Some scentences say :

I saw Elvis presley walk out of the seven-eleven and a women gave birth to a baby and then bowled 257.

I feel like the first part is saying that people are making crazy statements and the second part means something like 'yeah, right' or ' as if'. So at least here i can guess even if i'm wrong. But what the hell do they mean by :

The sugar that dripped from the violins bows made the children go crazy, put a hole in the tooth of a hag ?

I don't see ...

I looked up Tammy Bakker. I can see she has a lot on her plate but it seems from what i read that her husband is responsable for quite a bit of that. She sounds more like a victim with a lot of courage to me. Then again i only went by wikkipedia. Still an interresting character.

Yep. That's what i mean. I don't really know where to put it. I'm also interested in others opinions on this.

I took a look myself, and there are a lot of section of which it obviously should NOT be a subsection, like gear, mixing/recording, etc.

I think the most logical place would be a subsection of "music in general". That is, if you want to have a separate section for it.

What do you think?

I was thinking it should be close to songwriting as it is related. This is more 'song dissasembly' or reverse engineering. I think disecting a song can teach us about how they are build. The lyrics can teach us about language peculiarities which are often the basics for a song.

Crazy, seemingly meaningless or twisted lyrics often have nuerolinguistic triggers (certain words) embedded. They reinforce the dumbed-down societal programming that comes from education, media and hollywood among others. You do not even know you have been programmed until the day you go "wait a minute, whatThe#%!@ was that" and bingo, you realize pretty much everything you were taught was a fabrication, if not an outright lie. Other times satanic curses are disguised as some rythmic word nonesense, typified by Rhianons' latest album "My Umbrella". There is a blog somewhere breaking this all down. I'll look for it and post the url if anyone is interested.
Still Un-learning
Bruce

p.s. I think a lyric section is a great idea. May help round us out a bit more as producers.

Interesting take on lyrics...

With regards to neurolinguistic triggers, I've certainly experienced some...songs about beer make me thirsty

I tend not to be a "conspiracy theory" guy though... I also teach, so I guess I'm somewhat responsible for the fabrication, though I prefer to think I'm not a liar
Don't know anything about satanic curses so I guess I'm not in Rhianon's target market... don't put much stock in bloggers either... fwiw, I'm just an old curmudgeon and startin' to sound like mrskygod

Since joining this site every time I hear/read the word "cheese" I think of Robbie. I've been somewhat reprogrammed. Help

Someone said cheese?

Without saying where?