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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:32 pm 
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hi, everybody

i want to ask you something, i'm recording my album at the moment, but i want to buy another processor to my voice, i had one beringher, and try to use too the ones in the yamaha, however all sound very artificial, and want to buy something better... like the ones we listen in a kings of convinience album for example, or in the voice of tom york...
i've listen about the yamaha spx 1000 or yamaha spx 90... and about the lexicon ones, anyone can help in this problem?

probably i will try to it in ebay...

thanksa a lot let me know


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Reportedly, Lexicon is the best there is...I'm not sure as reverb is low on my priorities and I believe that the TC Helicon/TC Electronics 'verbs are excellent. You might want to look into a TC Electronic's M300...affordable and great reverb sounds.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:39 pm 
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the one that i have is a virtualizer pro of beringher do you know it?

i hate it... what do you recomend me only teh TC'


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Heya DavidRasta

I own two of those, and they are great fun, but they won't deliver what you are looking for.


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You talkin' about the TC's or the Behringers, Art?

David, I think that the M300 is good...even excellent. No little artificial artifacts on the tale end of the reverb decay like I hear on some many other plug-ins and what not. Way much better than Yamaha's reverb in their G. I suggested the M300 because it's more in the price range of Behringer gear; I liked the first one so much, I bought a second. The TC Helicon stuff is pretty expensive as things go, but still a sight less the Lexicon. If reverb were a priority for me at this point, I'd pop for one of the Lexicon boxes.

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Sorry DC, yeah the Behringers. Got two. tons of artifacts, not very smooth either.


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I see that the TC m350 is on sale for $199...not sure what the difference is between that and the m300, but you could probably pick up the m300 for less that $150 used, or spend the extra $50 and get a new one with warranty...

I've got the Lexicon mpx100...its got some nice verbs/delays etc, but seems to be a little hiss...I need to find out whether or not its the unit itself, or my chain...

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You got to get yourself up to a MX 400 or 500 before you get the patented Lexicon 'verbs. Lexicon markets the low end stuff as "Lexicon-typical sound quality". I have been checking out the PCM series.

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Have you tried taking a mic into the tiled bathroom or a stairwell?

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Yeah, thats about as real as you can get.... If I had the equipment and leads to spare, I'd probably setup something permanent, we have a very verby bathroom.


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hi again,

just one more thing:

i've seen that the better reverb unit are the lexicons, however i've already find some lexicon units for sale not so expensive, for example:

Lexicon MPX100 for 100 euros
it this one better than the TC m300

for for example 400 euros which one is the best for buy?


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DR,

I have the Lexicon, but I'd go for the TC if I were you...I bought the Lexi used for $70 (US)...can't beat that if you're on a budget...I will upgrade in the future though...

If you decide to get the Lexicon, try to find an MPX110 instead of a 100...They are harder to find, but give you a little better performance...
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The difference between the MPX 100 and the MPX 110 is that the MPX 110 has 24 bit converters (MPX 100 had 20 bit) and the MPX 110 has internal parameters (for the presets) that can be accessed via midi controller messages.

The MPX 110 also includes 24-bit memory banks increased from the 16-bit design used in the MPX 100. This eliminates the need for truncation and improves the "signal-to-noise ratio" audio performance when utilizing the unit's internal processing.

The MPX 110 has the same effects as the MPX 100.


Here's the MPX100 support site...

http://www.lexiconpro.com/KnowledgebaseItems.aspx?ProductID=124&Model=MPX%20100&TopicID=159&Topic=MPX%20100%20General%20Questions

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:14 am 
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Anybody use any of the G's reverbs? I've been using room reverb, but I'm not real happy with it. Do any of you tweak the parameters to get one of the G's reverbs to sound good enough? It sure would be easier (and cheaper) if I could get an acceptable reverb from one of the internals.

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I find that increasing the damping or lowering the high freq response in the G's verbs helps a little. Most probably because it hides more of the audible inaccuracies...


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I've not been real happy with the G's reverbs either. Had some luck editing them. As I recall, increasing the pre-delay and playing with the density seemed to help. Also, as Art mentioned, playing with the EQ section in the effect edit screen can really help. I remove a lot of mids to reduce the amount of sonic real estate the reverb takes up. Others here have mentioned rolling off the high end for a more natural, less harsh sound. Play around in the edit screen and you'll probably find some things that work for you.


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