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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:07 pm 
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I am making recording for a local young band , and one of the boys vocals are a bit messy. I have recorded him several times , but I have a lot of problems with his lack of training. I have manged to use a lot of compression to even out his volume , but had a problem with his breathing which seemed even loader than his vocals at points!! This meant I couldn't use the expander .
I got to thinking , and inspired by (i think it was robbies tip on sibilence about linking tracks) I copied the track to another track. I then went through the first track and erased all of the breaths. Then I brought the second track back in but at - 10 DB. The result we still have the natural sound of breathing but at level that can be controlled. It sounds much more fluid and human than just cutting out the breathing.

I'm sure this has been done before , but thought it worth sharing...

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Breath is good. I like to keep the breath.

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Yep, vocals without breathing sound a bit strange. However, I've heard some songs where the breathing is just plain distracting, so I can see Ray's reasons for wanting to tone it down a bit.


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I think audible breathing gives the song some intimacy - if the intimacy matches the song, that really nice.

What I like to do though is edit out the breaths within a musical phrase and only leave the breath at the beginning of that phrase untouched. This calms down the overall sound and makes the performance more fluid, IMO.

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It's all about volume. The breath sound *should* be there, but lots of decibels less than the actual singing.

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Seems to me, if you didn't breathe you might just up and die. Now that wouldn't be very comfortable. I say breathe in . . . breathe out. Ahhhh . . .

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It is strange , but it does sound much better with breaths , I suppose the same as string noise on an acoustic guitar , makes it feel real.
It also seems to flow better , and when I was cutting the breaths out of the first track it was interesting to see the timing of the breaths were almost exactly the same time apart ( in time with the music of course) so it could even add a "natural" pace to the music. The problem was they were very distracting as they were very loud , and sometimes accompanied by him smacking his lips (told you he was untrained ) I did not want to distract him as he was already very nervous. So I thought I would rely on technology.

Having in effect reduced the volume of the breaths (and other noises!) it does have a much better feel without any distraction.

All I need now is to learn how to use the pitch fix to get him in tune !!

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