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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:54 pm 
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Also if you live in Holland then use the loophole I use for buying from Thomaan.
If you know somebody with a registered company name then get them to order it for you and as it's bought outside of NL then you pay no VAT.

Suddenly things become a hell of a lot cheaper =D>


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:28 am 
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shawbag wrote:
Also if you live in Holland then use the loophole I use for buying from Thomaan.
If you know somebody with a registered company name then get them to order it for you and as it's bought outside of NL then you pay no VAT.

Suddenly things become a hell of a lot cheaper =D>


Isn't that dishonest?

Pay the extra bucks, maintain your integrity.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:35 am 
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Isn't that dishonest?

Pay the extra bucks, maintain your integrity.


just gopher it...



and careful Gary, don't cast that stone... :D

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:50 pm 
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bokchoy wrote:
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Isn't that dishonest?

Pay the extra bucks, maintain your integrity.


just gopher it...



and careful Gary, don't cast that stone... :D


Too late, I already did and my house is glass for sure.

Maybe we need a new section "How to cheat on your taxes" or "Ponzi Schemes 101". We could recruit expert moderators like they do on the "Gearslutz" forum. I heard Bernie Madoff has free time on his hands.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:42 pm 
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Bartman wrote:
bokchoy wrote:
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Isn't that dishonest?

Pay the extra bucks, maintain your integrity.


just gopher it...



and careful Gary, don't cast that stone... :D




Too late, I already did and my house is glass for sure.

Maybe we need a new section "How to cheat on your taxes" or "Ponzi Schemes 101". We could recruit expert moderators like they do on the "Gearslutz" forum. I heard Bernie Madoff has free time on his hands.

Bartman wrote:
bokchoy wrote:
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Isn't that dishonest?

Pay the extra bucks, maintain your integrity.


just gopher it...



and careful Gary, don't cast that stone... :D


Too late, I already did and my house is glass for sure.

Maybe we need a new section "How to cheat on your taxes" or "Ponzi Schemes 101". We could recruit expert moderators like they do on the "Gearslutz" forum. I heard Bernie Madoff has free time on his hands.


:lol:


zute you're right... :)

don't think 60's guy would be too keen on the new sections though... #-o just joshin' Randy!!! :mrgreen:

Hey, maybe a Zuteman's Glass House" section, or a Bok's Confessional section(for those needing to get something off their chest that has been gnawing at them awhile)...open the floodgates all you Dijon comedians...

wonder if Bernie gets 20 minutes per day on the net in the big house...knowing him, he'd be making a few more bills with his contacts...time is money.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:49 pm 
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Some years ago there was a TV program on the italian TV called "Io confesso" translated (duh!) I confess. It was exactly that... giving people the opportunity to get something off their chest. You'd be amazed of what some people confessed... on the other hand, having the 'net and all, you're probably not.

Bok's Confessional Section... hm... sounds a bit like "Services Sunday 10:00 am and 11:30 am"... how 'bout it Reverend Bok... 8)

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:36 pm 
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Maybe that's the reason why so few people are honest these day's. I am not hollier than the pope but when you tell someone you did the honest thing they all start going. "What's the matter with you ? don't you like money ?, If you don't someone else will etc...". Shouldn't we applaud people that want to be honest ? After all they do pay a lot of taxes so mine don't go up ! :D

No honestly i'am all for the honest aproach. Then again it ain't honest that we are all taxed so heavily. Aspecially overhere so if i could save a buck i'd probably do it too.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:08 pm 
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Maybe that's the reason why so few people are honest these day's. I am not hollier than the pope but when you tell someone you did the honest thing they all start going. "What's the matter with you ? don't you like money ?, If you don't someone else will etc...". Shouldn't we applaud people that want to be honest ? After all they do pay a lot of taxes so mine don't go up ! :D

No honestly i'am all for the honest aproach. Then again it ain't honest that we are all taxed so heavily. Aspecially overhere so if i could save a buck i'd probably do it too.


Fordirk,

I was busting your balls.

I'm not holier than anyone.... well maybe I'm holier than Mac or Bok, but isn't everyone?

Bartman


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:09 pm 
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In the end it all boils down to personal interest versus common interest.

In Belgium, fuel is a lot cheaper, so lots of people that are visiting Belgium fill their fuel tanks there (personal interest). So once I told them that in the end it is stupid because we're paying to the wrong tax authority, throwing all that cash away (common interest). I could tell by the looks on their faces they never gave it much thought.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:17 pm 
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Robbie wrote:
In the end it all boils down to personal interest versus common interest.

In Belgium, fuel is a lot cheaper, so lots of people that are visiting Belgium fill their fuel tanks there (personal interest). So once I told them that in the end it is stupid because we're paying to the wrong tax authority, throwing all that cash away (common interest). I could tell by the looks on their faces they never gave it much thought.


Robbie,

When the family bought me my Taylor acoustic I wanted to use MB's tax certificate to avoid paying sales tax (much like Fordirk's VAT avoidance plan). The Guitar Center employee actually suggested it. MB wouldn't do it because she thought it dishonest....which it is.

I later found out from Geno that as a "producer of music" (very loose definition !) in the state of Texas, I have legal tax exempt status for the purchase of anything used in the recording process. Soooooo........I OVERPAID taxes for that transaction.

Gary


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:22 pm 
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I think what they mean is "producer in music making money being a producer, hence paying taxes", where a guitar (or anything else) is deductable.

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Bartman wrote:
(much like Fordirk's VAT avoidance plan).


Just in case the tax guy's read this. It wasn't my plan it was shawbags ! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:45 pm 
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Robbie wrote:
I think what they mean is "producer in music making money being a producer, hence paying taxes", where a guitar (or anything else) is deductable.


Actually, that's not how it reads. Here's the link:

http://governor.state.tx.us/music/guides/salestax

A former colleague (Harvard law degree...though I don't hold it against him) tells me I'm well within the law as long as I have submitted songs for consideration to a person or entity that has the intent and ability to buy them (if they like them). So far.....I have not sold any. :oops: :(


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:45 pm 
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fordirk wrote:
Bartman wrote:
(much like Fordirk's VAT avoidance plan).


Just in case the tax guy's read this. It wasn't my plan it was shawbags ! :lol: :lol: :lol:


Dang! I sent the tax police to the wrong location.

Gary (IRS) Bartman


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:25 am 
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well maybe I'm holier than Mac or Bok, but isn't everyone?
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the pastor at the church where I run the BOH board thinks so too...holy roller I'm not... now Mac, that's a whole nutha story...word on the street says he's leadin' the Church of iMaccaculate...gonna change his name to Father McKenzie...

... Reverend Bok (from now on)...

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