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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:14 pm 
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I'm working on a new upbeat bluegrass song. With just my marginal guitar playing it sounds pretty lame.

I got the idea to take a 2 bar sample of rhythm from a real bluegrass band's CD and use the looping program ACID to make a backing track. The sample was in the key of G. I used ACID's pitch shifting to change to the 2 other chords (C & D) where needed. I used the original tempo. The pitch shifted parts sound pretty "hokey", but the part in G rocks!

I definitely sound much better singing over this backing track than what I will eventually come up. Alas, I can't legally use it and don't have enough money to hire [name withheld] to do a rhythm track for me. :)

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I hear Bela works faily inexpensively...

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You probably already know or have tried this, but there are a lot of CD's with live drum patterns that you can import into Acid and use like you did on your first try...check out the Beta Monkey website; sometimes they even sell on Ebay at a cheaper price...I think the monkey website was selling them for $29 the last time I checked...and there are plenty of other drum loops available for free on the net...obviously, finding suitable bluegrass loops will be more difficult than typical rock and roll, but you might give it a whirl...

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I've used drum loops & ACID quite a bit in the past with success. At least when you change the tempo, they don't sound "funny" (like solo instruments). I do have a country drums CD from Beta Monkey.

I've also used Band-In-A-Box for generating a bass WAV file for a song using a software synthesizer that sounds reasonable.

I also have a loops CD with banjo/guitar/mandolin/bass loops. Problems I have with using them:
a) Change the tempo or pitch shift and they sound crummy
b) Patterns in one key don't match those (including BPM) in another key. I.e., If I find a pattern I like in G, I can't find the same one in C & D and at the same BPM.

What I really need are songs at various BPMs that go through the 3 basic chords and have the various instruments on separate tracks. Then I could make my own loops from them.

Oh well, guess I'll have to either:
a) Accept my marginal playing
b) Pay for some "real" musicians
c) Get better (but I don't have enough years left for that) :)

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You ever notice how playing with better players makes you a better player? :wink:


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I always wanted to play with players that were worse than me to make me look better.

But I couldn't find any.

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