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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:35 am 
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Maybe this will help if you're looking for musical ideas. These are some computer generated music :?: I recorded (not with the G) when I got bored. I wrote a little Java program using the Java midi extension to create this stuff. You may want to hold your ears :) . This was a fun project -- still in progress and I'm looking for any suggestions to improve the algorithms. Basically the music is created with some controlled randomness. I tried to include some repetition and variation to make it interesting.

Each of these mp3s are 10 minutes long and are about 9.4 mb.

Edited: Sorry, they're gone. Just hurt my ears too much and were too offensive.

BTW, any thing in this thread I've posted is public domain.

My wife thinks I'm on drugs. :roll: So do my 2 younger sons who are die-hard traditional music lovers.

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I made a little progress - found out how to create midi files, not just play midi synth notes. Here's more output from my experiment :laughing5: :laughing5: . At least they're in a standard format that can be edited (extensively) with Cakewalk or some other midi editor.

http://bengalrecords.com/MIDI/Test7.mid
http://bengalrecords.com/MIDI/Test6.mid
http://bengalrecords.com/MIDI/Test5.mid
http://bengalrecords.com/MIDI/Test4.mid
http://bengalrecords.com/MIDI/Test3.mid
http://bengalrecords.com/MIDI/Test2.mid

Now all I have to do is figure out how to emulate a chosen genre. :confused1: I haven't found much Googling for musical patterns for specific genres yet, but I've just started looking. This could be a life long project :roll:

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I think them mudbugs have a little extra sauce. Better stay with the band for now .

Interesting yes , spending the rest of your life on it? Hmmmmmmmmm.

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I think them mudbugs have a little extra sauce


Yup, those damn saucy mudbugs are messin' with my mind. My wife and sons just called 911 to get the guys in the white coats here fast. 8-[

At least I haven't got any death threats yet :cheers:

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OK, here's one last shot before they take me away :cry:

I used Cakewalk to add some percussion and one of their magical functions to change the character of the melody.

http://bengalrecords.com/MIDI/Test7a.mid

Now I'm done. God :!: I hear everyone cheering. Dunno why :shock:

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Don't quit yer day job.

:laughing4: gawd I just saw your rank name Shrimp Ho. I feel honored!

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Well I guess I deserve to be a Shrimp Ho, just 'cause of all the time I spend lurking on this forum. Lot's of friendly musically talented people and great recording advice.

I'll get back to real music soon -- when they drill a few holes in my head and let out the air. :)

And if y'all can get up this way to Baltimore, remember the beer's on ice and the crabs are hot.

Our Cajun band (Charm City Ramblers) will probably be here if anyone can make it:

March 30 Thursday Cajun Jam
@ Half Moon BBQ, 8235 Georgia Ave. Silver Spring, MD 20910
7:30 pm Free. Please support the venue with your purchases of food
and drinks. Open to all musicians, singers, dancers, and listeners
who enjoy Cajun music. Beginners welcome.
FFIC: (301) 585-1290 or (240) 687-2914

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Cajunator wrote:
Baltimore, MD 20910


That doesn't sound quite cajun to me. Yall on tour?

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The farthest we tour is to Silver Spring (north of DC) . Unfortunately doing gigs most anytime is a problem because 2 of the band members are medical docs and often have to work on weekends. The closest to any real Cajun heritage we have is Dr. Phil - one of our fiddlers from the great state of Texas. The rest of us are wanna be Cajuns - musically anyway. Every now and then I look for real estate near Lafayette or Eunice, LA and think about moving there but then think how nice MD is and forget about it.

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Cajunator wrote:
. Every now and then I look for real estate near Lafayette or Eunice, LA and think about moving there but then think how nice MD is and forget about it.


My wife was born in Lafayette, LA. A Coonass for sure. Ay-yeee!


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Oh, say it ain't so, Joe!



:shock: Cajun music by Yankees ? Holy Gumbo , what's this world coming to. I am so depressed now............


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Cajun music by Yankees ? Holy Gumbo
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Yea, us Yanks have a tough time with Cajun music, but at least we're better than the space aliens trying to play Cajun music in my workstation computer.[/u] :D







Haven't got the algorithm quite right yet :?

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Cajunator wrote:
.......... The closest to any real Cajun heritage we have is Dr. Phil - ................


THE dr phil?

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No. But his name is Phil and he's a doc, so that's what we call him. He's finally gotten over being called "Dr. Phil". We kid him a lot about his TV shows.

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I'm still alive, still married and my sons haven't disowned me......yet :cheers:

On a more serious note, has anyone found any useful music generation apps for computers? I was hoping to find a way by writing a program to create a few musical phrases that could be clipped, maybe edited, and then pasted into something that sounds a little better than what my app has produced so far.

Here's an explanation for my kinda' strange motivation. I've been involved with software and lately with web application development for 25 years now so I thought when Sun came out with their MIDI sound library API I might be able to experiment a little and make my PC produce music. Well I guess it hasn't quite worked yet, but I'm still very interested in finding or creating the algorithms to create music. If anyone has any ideas, tell me about them. Please. Otherwise my dear wife is going to take a sledge hammer to my PC. :(

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Hey, I did some homework on musical theory and improved the program a little. Now it will generate music that sounds like Mozart on drugs. Always on pitch, in perfect time & harmony -- yeaaaa :!:

Playing in the key of C it adds Am, Dm and Em chords as well as C, F and G chords. Not quite Cajun yet, but give me a few weeks :wink:

For anyone who's interested, the note durations are selected from predetermined sets of scripts, the pitch of the notes is generated randomly with strict controls, the instruments chosen just cycle through a preselected set. Each group of 20 notes is repeated once. The percussion was added through edits with Cakewalk 3.0 (about 10 years old but still pretty good at editing MIDI).

MOZART ON DRUGS

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This is a new experiment. I added some delays to the 4 note harmonies to create an arpeggio effect. I like it. :D

http://bengalrecords.com/MIDI/comp2b.mid

Now all I gotta do is put it all together. I'm thinkin maybe I'll do some kind of statistical analysis of different genres, starting maybe with Celtic or something else pretty simple. I dunno if I'll ever get Cajun right, but I'm sure having fun trying. :)

Any ideas out there?

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Cajunator wrote:
Any ideas out there?


yeah ...speed it up .Pretty darn cool.

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Here's another one. I increased to 100 bpm. I think it sounds a little busy.

http://bengalrecords.com/MIDI/comp3a.mid

Still need to get it all together. Maybe in a few weeks....months....years :roll:

One last try speeded up to 130 bpm....

http://bengalrecords.com/MIDI/comp3b.mid

At least my wife Bonnie likes the new sound. She's pretty tolerant :D

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