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 Post subject: Is my AW16G dying?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:59 pm 
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I have been using my AW16G without problems for a few years until the other day!

I tried to burn a stereo track and the burn froze up 63% of the way through, during several attempts at burning using 'disk at once' I tried using 'track at once' and got a system error. I realized my hard drive is almost full so i optimized all the songs and tried to back them all up (been meaning to do this for a while) although i have been able to back up some of my songs i get an error message when i try to back up others. I was deleting the backed up songs, but one of them wont allow me to delete it!

I ran the disc check and it came up with
Read Error 0
Data Error 1
Link Error 278
Doesn't sound good!!

I have never updated the OS or Firmware, has this got anything to do with my problems? I am not a technically minded guy, just love to write and record music.

I would appreciate any advice, is my AW16G dying?


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 Post subject: Re: Is my AW16G dying?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:04 pm 
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Hi Red,

Welcome to this forum!

sounds like your HDD is corrupted. Try to back up all the projects that you can backup and try a formatting.

Sorry Robbie for being faster ... :mrgreen:
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 Post subject: Re: Is my AW16G dying?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:41 pm 
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You're forgiven for this time Blackbeer.

:D

Hi Red, welcome to the club.

It sucks when you're trying to be creative and your gear lets you down.

The G is just like any other gear: it needs maintenance. It's just like your living room: you need to clean it up every once in a while, and after some time you need to redecorate it. So, as Blackbeer suggests: backup whatever you can and format the harddisk.

You can upgrade the OS version but I don't think there's a direct relationship between the firmware version and the problem you ran into.

Sorry Andreas for repeating you :D - I just thought I'd welcome our new ally in music.

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 Post subject: Re: Is my AW16G dying?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:48 pm 
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Hi Red. I would remove a bunch of songs off of the G(if not all of them). Hard drives don't work well when they are near full capacity. A 20 gig drive might sound like a lot, but it's not. First I'd backup and remove what you can, then try a stereo track again. Worse case senario, do a Robbie (reformat). Hope you get it working.

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 Post subject: Re: Is my AW16G dying?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:14 pm 
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Thanks for the quick replies :)

I am going to continue to back up everything i can, I'll have another look at the songs i 'cant' back up when the hard drive is freed up a bit, if no change i guess i will have to lose the lot! Once formatted will everything be back to full working order? I realise i should have backed songs up along the way and not let my hard drive get full! Are song scenes backed up along with the audio data?

Thanks again


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 Post subject: Re: Is my AW16G dying?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:16 pm 
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Hi Red,

When you make a backup of a song, all tracks are included, as well as the scenes. So, if you put back a backup, load it, recall the scene and you're back in business.

Formatting will empty your song list and sample pad sounds. I never use them, so that doesn't bother me.

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 Post subject: Re: Is my AW16G dying?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:29 pm 
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If you have a finished song to be rescued and it won't back up successfully, you could try exporting the stereo WAV file of the Stereo Track that contains final mix. You can then burn it through your PC or restore it after the reformat and burn it on the Yammy.

If the song hasn't been mixed, you may be able to export Trks1-16 and restore them for mixing again after you have reformatted the disc.

Link errors are bad news and you will to reformat to remove them.

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 Post subject: Re: Is my AW16G dying?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:13 pm 
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Thanks again for the help!

Just one thing, should i be backing up with AW2816 turned on or off?

Thx


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 Post subject: Re: Is my AW16G dying?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:04 pm 
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To get your scenes saved along with the audio, don't use AW2816. If you use, AW2816, all you get is the audio.

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 Post subject: Re: Is my AW16G dying?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:34 am 
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To expand a little on Ralph's post above. The 2816 backup will backup only provide the stereo track audio files which are the currently selected virtual stereo tracks. You may select any single virtual stereo track for this backup method. If scene data is present , the audio RESULTS of the scene data WILL be recorded to the stereo tracks of a 2816 backup if selected. Also in a 2816 backup ALL the virtual tracks 1-16 will also be saved.

The reason the 2816 backup won't reproduce all of the 16G's virtual stereo tracks is that the 2816 and 4416 machines have only one virtual stereo track pair. On the other side of the coin , the 16G ignores automix data from 2816 backups from 2816's and 4416's and produces audio only and the lonely single stereo track.

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