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 Post subject: Language question
PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:09 am 
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A lot of the text books we use for the math program are written in english as the quantities are too small to translate to dutch.

One of the current subjects is Probability. A commonly used example is throwing the dice.

To my surprise I saw the word "die" being used, so I thought it must be a spelling error or a typo. However the word is used quite frequently, so either the text was edited/mastered using an automated system containing an ill-spelled word, or it is an omission in my knowledge of the language.

So, I turned to Google Translate. It does translate "die" to the dutch word for dice (dobbelsteen, dobbel means subject to chance and steen is stone). My next guess was dice is plural and die is singular, but Google Translate does not make such distinction.

So, what's the deal?

Is die a good word? Is it an equal alternative for dice? Or do the words have different meanings?

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 Post subject: Re: Language question
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A die is one of two dice.

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The die is cast!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Language question
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So, dice is always plural? If someone says "throw the dice" he means more than one?

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 Post subject: Re: Language question
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Yes, dice is plural for die.

Not to be confused with "eat shit and die".

"The die is cast" is/was a common saying. It could mean that the die is thrown & that the result is up to fate/there is nothing more that can be done (cast as in casting a net, I think).

I always thought that it meant that molten metal had been poured into the mould and so there was nothing more to do but wait. A die is also a mould & cast can mean pouring molten metal (as in cast iron).

Both interpretations are similar.

The English spread their language over so many locations that the same phrase can mean different things. As an example, if you ask an Australian for a rubber, they will pass you a pencil eraser. The same question posed to an American could get your face slapped !

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 Post subject: Re: Language question
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Thanks gents! That clears things up.

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Oscar wrote:
As an example, if you ask an Australian for a rubber, they will pass you a pencil eraser. The same question posed to an American could get your face slapped !


A pencil eraser was a rubber when i went to school (in Canada). Now -- asking for a rubber may get some looks. thinking you mean a condom.

When my wife was younger she worked a t a drug store. Her friend worked there too. a man came in one day asking for balloons. the young friend ( about 19 at the time) had heard condoms called all sorts of things, so took the man to the condom display. He was puzzled, then realized the misunderstanding - he said "Balloons - my daughter is having a birthday party!!"

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Byron wrote:
Oscar wrote:
As an example, if you ask an Australian for a rubber, they will pass you a pencil eraser. The same question posed to an American could get your face slapped !


A pencil eraser was a rubber when i went to school (in Canada). Now -- asking for a rubber may get some looks. thinking you mean a condom.

When my wife was younger she worked a t a drug store. Her friend worked there too. a man came in one day asking for balloons. the young friend ( about 19 at the time) had heard condoms called all sorts of things, so took the man to the condom display. He was puzzled, then realized the misunderstanding - he said "Balloons - my daughter is having a birthday party!!"


At least she was covered either way!

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