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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:51 pm 
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Ya know, I never mentioned this before and I do it all the time:

ERASE.

That's right, Erase with a capital E. If you are not recording live (where all open mics are recording everything), Erase. Anytime the track has dead space (the instrument is not playing, the voice is not singing), Erase it. There is always noise; get rid of it.

You'll thank me in the morning.

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You'll thank me in the morning.


Yes, but will I still respect myself?

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:idea: Good Tip! :idea:

Now...If I could only find a way to get decent stereo mix levels...cause even with applying compression to the vocals and stereo track....the mix is still not strong enough....commercially.... :roll: :?

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you could always compress the noise until it dissappears.

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Or fill it with a tambourine.

Tambourine's are great.

I haven't recorded a song yet that didn't sound better with a tambourine.

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Tambourine's are great.


Got to agree with that. My personal musical highlight of DijonStock was playing tambourine on Robbie's song at the end of the evening....

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Tambourine's are great.


Got to agree with that. My personal musical highlight of DijonStock was playing tambourine on Robbie's song at the end of the evening....


I HAVE THIS CONFESSION ON VIDEO !!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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MitchM2004 wrote:
...Now...If I could only find a way to get decent stereo mix levels...cause even with applying compression to the vocals and stereo track....the mix is still not strong enough....commercially.... :roll: :?
Well, I was never able to get "modern" CD levels by mastering on the "G" alone. (that's why I am now using the PC). However, I was able to significantly boost the levels by doing the following.

I found that even though I used compression both during recording, and final mixdown, the music still had occasional spikes that forced me to keep the "average" levels down around -6db. (below is an extreme example)
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In desparation, I then copied the stereo track to 15/16, and remixed it using the "hard limit" patch. Since average levels were -6db, I set the limit threshold at that, and pushed the levels as much as I dared. After some fiddling with the parameters, I was able to get it to sound decent, and the resulting track is significantly louder than the original mix. (again, and extreme example below)
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WARNING.: I noticed that the G's "hard limiter" is nothing like a "real" limiter, (more like HARD compression), and it is very easy to totally crush the life out of your tracks. However, with a bit of experimentation using this method, you may be able to improve your mixes a bit. Good luck!


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How long have you lived in Plano? Have you been to Larry Morgan's music in Garland? If so is it worth the long drive for me to check 'em out. Banjo Center is getting old. Back in the late 60's I bought a Marshall Super Lead 100 from a music store in Garland called Arnold and Morgan Music. In the mid '70s I bought a MaxiKorg synth from them. I wonder if that's the same Morgan?

You comming to Texastock?

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mrskygod wrote:
you could always compress the noise until it dissappears.

:? Compression will raise floor noise levels.

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mrskygod wrote:
you could always compress the noise until it dissappears.


That was a joke silly!

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Hey MSG.... I've been living in the dallas burbs for about 20 years. I bought a bass from that Arnold & Morgan store in the mid 80's. I believe Speir Music bought them out about 10 years ago. I'ts been a year or two since I've been in there but it is still a great store, (similar to the old one). Great selection of guitars, etc... and lots of used gear too. Might be worth the trip. :wink:
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tredmeister.... You comming to Texastock? msg
I'm so close, I am sure I will find my way out there sometime during the event. :D


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Yeah the old A/M store was cool. They had repair techs IN the store to fix your stuff while you waited (if they had the parts) :D

Too bad Banjo Center doesn't fix anything. :roll:

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